tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post898715753698335851..comments2024-02-29T09:12:01.191-06:00Comments on GlassyEyes | Find Your Next Affordable Eyeglasses Online: The Elusive PD -- and How to Wrangle Yours.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger81125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-73223438754494839592017-05-17T14:17:30.161-05:002017-05-17T14:17:30.161-05:00Amen, unknown. And who is to say that my online gl...Amen, unknown. And who is to say that my online glasses are not made by "professionals"? The difference, BTW is $7-$35 (I won't spend more) vs $75-400+. Especially with a low-correction prescription, I'll take my chances!!Paul Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13486796617838538455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-33826861711881849992016-01-04T19:32:22.672-06:002016-01-04T19:32:22.672-06:00So with this logic would a doctor not be required ...So with this logic would a doctor not be required to give you your weight and blood pressure because he hired a trained nurse and had to purchase special equipment. I feel that I just spent almost $500 for an eye exam and glasses. If I ask for my measurements then the Dr. Should give them to me!!! Maybe I want to purchase a second cheaper pair online. suzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12969198641986910071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-89114306909521149042015-09-06T20:03:51.820-05:002015-09-06T20:03:51.820-05:00All self PD taking is a joke. In order to be accu...All self PD taking is a joke. In order to be accurate for either distance or for near vision, your eyes must be oriented to a focus on a point that is comensurate with distance or near vision. It is impossible to simultaneously do that AND read a mm ruler to get the measurement you need. Soon as you look at the ruler, you've "changed" the PD. So it doesn't matter if Zenni is selling you digital hi index lenses for $25, you'll still end up with optically incorrect lenses. The internet is full of wonderful tools. This is not one of them. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07903798868317660328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-87849988275145976502014-03-05T11:28:41.618-06:002014-03-05T11:28:41.618-06:00I love it when I get a comment on a six year old p...I love it when I get a comment on a six year old post. It's even better when it's almost completely jibberish.Irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15763238865191056205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-74872569029269641332014-03-04T20:57:36.836-06:002014-03-04T20:57:36.836-06:00So let's say you get your pd and send it to an...So let's say you get your pd and send it to an online company. who by the way is also a FOR PROFIT company. You put it is wrong, and they send it.to you . Who will be responsible when you get them and can't see well or at all? Yep your right YOU are. But I bet you blame the doctor, or the "glasses lady". By theway they are called opticians who know what they are doing. Your Pd measuring program is great for single vision what about progressive or bi-focals? What about the fact that frames are. different and the pd height changes. Maybe read some on how to be an optician before you judge the.people who take tour vision seriously..even more serious than you do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11776530518827334317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-8668521346978519662012-10-21T08:30:52.510-05:002012-10-21T08:30:52.510-05:00When I had my last eye exam, the glasses fitter la...When I had my last eye exam, the glasses fitter lady used the glasses/card/marker method to get my PD. I ordered my regular glasses there, and also walked out with the prescription. PD didn't get written down on the prescription.<br /><br />I later ordered a pair of sunglasses online. I'm fortunate enough to have some resources including a digital camera with a radio remote and a tripod. I just took a picture of myself holding a metric ruler from across the room with the camera, then printed it as large as I could. On the print, I could measure the ruler and measure the center-center distance between my pupils, and PD just became a simple algebra problem. My sunglasses worked out great! I think I was more accurate than the measurement I paid for.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17853812481518310959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-76455053179260146222012-09-08T19:08:29.394-05:002012-09-08T19:08:29.394-05:00Oh puh-lease with your "regulated medical car...Oh puh-lease with your "regulated medical care" speech. get over yourself. people still have to come to you or others like you for their exam, and they pay for it. all people are asking for is an option for low price frames. by not giving ppl their pd, you and others like you are trying to keep out competition, keep a monopoly. if someone pays for an exam and wants to go elsewhere for their actual glasses, get over it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506634499587609881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-91919512269511753362012-07-24T17:28:17.039-05:002012-07-24T17:28:17.039-05:00Today I had my eyes examined and received my presc...Today I had my eyes examined and received my prescription. I asked for my PD and the doctor said to get it from the woman doing the glasses. I asked her for my PD and she told me she could not give it to me unless I was purchasing glasses. I wanted to put new lenses in my current frames so I told her that is what I wanted to do. I then asked for my PD and she told me no, I could not have it, she was not going to compromise her license by giving it to me. It could only go into the computer. But I'm purchasing glasses I told her, she still said no. I left with no new glasses. They are my eyes, I don't understand the issue.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12633631305287643324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-42095712984160759532012-07-11T00:32:51.542-05:002012-07-11T00:32:51.542-05:00As a physician, I just have to comment on all the ...As a physician, I just have to comment on all the fuss over obtaining PD's. To the poster who spoke of having a friend diagnose a problem and then having the car fixed elsewhere and then returning to the friend - this is exactly what can happen in the medical field. It is not at all uncommon for us to diagnose a disease and have the patient get a "2nd opinion" and even get treated elsewhere. Frequently, they will return to us after treatment for continued follow-up. I see nothing wrong with this model - we are paid for the initial exam/diagnosis, and subsequent follow-ups. The treatment is a separate matter. What the optometrists fail to see is that they can separate their services into diagnosis/treatment paradigm. I think many people would pay a reasonable fee for a good eye exam and a prescription for the corrective lenses/frames/etc. What's wrong then with going to another vendor to actually produce the glasses? Why is the industry so married with the idea that the one who measures/diagnoses must also be the one to treat/manufacture? As an example, I would not doubt in the near future there will be stores with an optometrist who will provide quality eye exams and then you can sit down on a computer kiosk and order your glasses online (similar to the Dell kiosks you find in malls selling computers).<br /><br />Going back to the medical profession, the treatment is often where you derive the greatest profit. However, if you are not driven by greed, it's easy to see that performing quality exams with good advice can get you loyal customers (no different than our practice) who return for routine check-ups. While the profit margin is less, the steady stream should at least provide a reasonable stable revenue source.Harold Bienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09573170582058513204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-47472883203283054202012-01-19T10:53:06.756-06:002012-01-19T10:53:06.756-06:00Based on someone's comment to use Yellow posti...Based on someone's comment to use Yellow postit notes, I have an idea. First measure the distance between the pupils approximately using a ruler. Say you got 65mm. Now take 10 postit notes and punch two tiny holes in them from 60mm to 70mm on each note. Look at a distant object through each note for Nearsightedness (Myopia), and a closer object for reading glasses. For some tests, you will see 2 circles far apart "O O", on some the circles will be closer (like binoculars) "OO", for some they will overlap, and on only one the circles will overlap each other perfectly "O". I believe that is the one you want. <br /><br />Though my friend argues that we should select the one that looks like binoculars, circles touching one other like "OO". Will appreciate if any of you who have taken your PD from a doctor, perform this test, and share your experience.NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02606484239588725839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-42178875019650536282012-01-08T09:04:13.318-06:002012-01-08T09:04:13.318-06:00Please, would an optician or other professional he...Please, would an optician or other professional help me? This is driving me crazy! I am the type of person who obsesses at times over exams and such. Recently I purchased multi-focal lenses. The measurements were taken through the pupil-measuring device. I was told to look at the small blue or green ball, whiel the optician did adjustments. Now, I'm thnking -- do you I look into the CENTER of the ball, or sort of stare at the whole thing. I'm upgrading to a better (digital) lense, and asked to take the pupil measurement again. I found myself having a tough time staying 100% focused on the blue ball -- I shifted a bit when I saw the examiner's eye appear just above the dot (maybe for a second). The reading was different by 1mm! I freaked (sorry, a bit neurotic here). We did it again and now the reading was .5 mm different! Should I worry? Is this normal for taking a series of readings? The professional said eben if it was 1.5mm it would not be a problem...is she right? SHould I worry? Get a new pair of glasses? Help and thanks!Mr. Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727860113887487599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-42139146537917087112011-12-26T20:02:25.996-06:002011-12-26T20:02:25.996-06:00You may know PD but you can't see the forest f...You may know PD but you can't see the forest for the trees. Have you ever thought that we're here because we need to see at any price?Brent Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963970025906369089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-1965967133331208812011-11-21T04:04:42.837-06:002011-11-21T04:04:42.837-06:00The nonsense over this PD matter shows that most p...The nonsense over this PD matter shows that most people will only ofer their opinion based on what they think is good for their own personal situatin, right? Is not the objective view one that realises that the object of an eye exam is to provide as much information as possible to enable the patient to obtain in whatever way they see fit a pair of eye glasses that suit their purpose? As a PD is necessary to obtain eye glasses it sould be obvious to any objective observer that it is in fact an intregal part of the eye prescription otherwise one would have only a pair of monocular lenses and no way to hold them in front of one's eyes in a usable way, right. Think fora minute or two about it.wupbumcadinalrg666https://www.blogger.com/profile/07335041021885155628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-74854930392700636022011-07-18T03:58:05.097-05:002011-07-18T03:58:05.097-05:00The PD is a manufacturing measurement. It has not...The PD is a manufacturing measurement. It has noting to do with the prescription. Whom ever is doing the manufacturing is the one that needs to make the measurement. Plane and simple. Over 50 years of optical experience that I have will tell you that I have made many of my own mistakes in making PD measurements and I hate to say the $$ costs I have encored in remakes attributed to making those mistakes. These on line labs will not help you when they send you the wrong script, the wrong lens material and I have personally looked at the quality of the prescriptions coming out of these labs and let me tell you they are horrible. One patient not only has his PD wrong that he took himself but his prescription was made backwards and he was having a terrible time driving but did not realize the problem, he just thought it was his new prescription that he had to adjust to. He rear ended another car and injured 2 children, one very severely with a severed spinal injury, sitting in the back seat of the car, they are now holding him responsible to the tune of thousands of dollars. He tried to bring in the on line company that made them wrong but was told since he ordered himself, he was the responsible party. He may even be spending time in jail all for the want of saving a dime or 2.glennglass03https://www.blogger.com/profile/14926525681114051817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-23994887535026038232010-08-16T13:01:26.605-05:002010-08-16T13:01:26.605-05:00There is currently a group in the UK trying to get...There is currently a group in the UK trying to get the law changed to require PD be given with a prescription. We need to do the same thing here in the U.S.<br /><br />Check them out.<br /><br />http://www.pupillary-distance.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-83084422257275461462010-05-13T18:09:42.376-05:002010-05-13T18:09:42.376-05:00To the last anonymous, I, the "real" an...To the last anonymous, I, the "real" anonymous, say:<br /><br />If the eyeglass industry hadn't gotten greedy, trying to create a market where they wax consumers on frames alone, this site wouldn't be so popular. Any medical field is trying to get paid twice, by insurance companies and the patients themselves, because the need for medical services guarantees customers with no choices. This is America, right? It's all about competition. <br /><br />Well then, compete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-40406530890537558362010-05-04T18:46:00.450-05:002010-05-04T18:46:00.450-05:00Fellow citizens:
I'm an optometrist. I have ...Fellow citizens:<br /><br />I'm an optometrist. I have a problem with unregulated medical care. You may not; you may find the cost savings worth the risk. That's your own judgement call.<br /><br />Please, do not ask me or my office to participate in your attempts to bypass the educated, regulated, licensed, board-certified, malpractice-insured, standard-of-care medical system. I will not participate.<br /><br />The truth is in the middle, oftentimes; overregulation is bad, underregulation is bad. We are at a time where internet glasses, medicine, ANYTHING, is available, and that is indeed a new economy.<br /><br />If you wish to not support the current medical system, that is now your option.<br /><br />But realize it's MY option to not participate in unregulated medical care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-23353782490468991202010-04-21T11:09:40.588-05:002010-04-21T11:09:40.588-05:00You can also check to see if your local community ...You can also check to see if your local community college has an Optical Tech program. If they do, it may be possible for you, as a member of the general public, to get your PD measured as well as advice on the kinds of frames that would suit your face. Madison Area Technical College did this for me. I blogged about it here: http://elizabethgalewski.com/blog/?p=103.Elizabeth Galewskihttp://www.elizabethgalewski.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-33020586547547371242010-01-06T09:50:23.989-06:002010-01-06T09:50:23.989-06:00@Brick-n-Mortar Traitor,
I think you'll be in...@Brick-n-Mortar Traitor,<br /><br />I think you'll be interested in the upcoming marketing materials for the site.Irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18225258753192706053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-72766803668653600722010-01-05T22:20:53.738-06:002010-01-05T22:20:53.738-06:00For PD measurements, I would recommend a purpose m...For PD measurements, I would recommend a purpose made PD ruler. I found a very nice one here: http://www.pdruler.com. At $2.99 each plus $5.50 shipping and handling, it's a steal. Not quite as inexpensive as a non-permanent marker, but in my personal experience it's both very accurate and very easy to use. (Please note that I am in no way affiliated with the website above--I just like their product.)<br /><br />In the interest of full disclosure, I am a board certified optician currently working in an entirely different field and I think this site rocks!Brick-n-Mortar Traitornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-34727153039694060782009-12-02T07:17:38.155-06:002009-12-02T07:17:38.155-06:00*sigh*
"Scamming and lying to take advantage...*sigh* <br /><i>"Scamming and lying to take advantage of someone's hard earned professional knowledge so you can save a buck"</i><br />Coming in and paying for an eye test and expecting all pertinent measurements to be supplied at the end is *not* scamming or lying. <br /><br />Similarly, if you offer an eyetest for free to entice people into your shop, but they don't then buy, that isn't scamming or lying either. <br /><br /><i>"Buying online gets you quality similar to that of over the counter magnifying glasses from the dollar store."</i><br />Total. Utter. Complete. Nonsense. <br /><br />Please provide one single piece of evidence to back up that childish claim.David Carruthershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07194897718272338009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-44368098520089730172009-12-02T06:55:33.984-06:002009-12-02T06:55:33.984-06:00@anon,
I have to admit, I wish I'd said that ...@anon,<br /><br />I have to admit, I wish I'd said that when I read that.Irahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18225258753192706053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-57103612671224615982009-12-01T23:48:45.470-06:002009-12-01T23:48:45.470-06:00You'll spend $100 on a pupilometer, but you wo...You'll spend $100 on a pupilometer, but you won't spend more than $7 on your actual glasses?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-2462942921556855762009-11-23T16:55:26.719-06:002009-11-23T16:55:26.719-06:00You can purchase a pupilometer on ebay for under $...You can purchase a pupilometer on ebay for under $100 and they are the same ones that are used in local optical establishments.bullet875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37485715.post-89657442942338619792009-11-17T13:29:19.939-06:002009-11-17T13:29:19.939-06:00What some of you aren't understanding is that ...What some of you aren't understanding is that the PD, while very important, is only one of the necessary measurements. The OC, or optical center, needs to be taken with your frame of choice sitting on your face. If you're ordering any kind of a multifocal lens, then a seg height needs to be taken, again, while wearing the frame. This is impossible when you're buying a pair of glasses sight unseen. Online companies claim to have these formulas to determine OC and seg height mathematically, but it's a crapshoot because fit is unique to each individual. Botching those measurements gives you a pair of glasses that aren't worth wearing, and in some cases, a pair that can actually do harm.<br /><br />Thee is so much more to a pair of glasses than whether the RX is technically within spec. Check out some of the online study guides for the American Board of Opticianry exam - your head will be spinning before you've finished reading the first page of questions. Real opticians make sure that you are getting the best possible performance from your glasses, and that you're getting what your doctor prescribed. Scamming and lying to take advantage of someone's hard earned professional knowledge so you can save a buck by getting substandard glasses made online is unethical. Would you expect your friend the mechanic to diagnose your car's problem at no charge, then take it to Car X to get repaired for less than he'd charge, and then take it back to your friend to be inspected and verified for free? If you would, then you probably have no friends! Choose a real professional and get the job done right, or man up and accept the consequences of choosing value over quality. Buying online gets you quality similar to that of over the counter magnifying glasses from the dollar store. If you're fine with that, then go for it. Most people value their vision and comfort more than that, and will continue to shop at real dispensaries .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com